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Philip Newton ([personal profile] pne) wrote2005-04-05 07:57 pm

Would you be allowed to enter first grade at school?

(From [livejournal.com profile] pthalogreen)

In Hungary, part of the test that decides whether you're allowed to go to 1st grade or have to stay in preschool is drawing! So I thought it'd be fun to post the test. Important: Don't click the LJ-cut until you've made your drawing!

Draw a person. Full body. Do your best and make it as detailed and realistic as possible. You can use any tools you want--mspaint, crayons, a pencil and paper. whatever. :)

Person Drawing Assessment

According to "Good Enough"

A group: Unrecogniseable drawings in which it is not possible to recognise a human figure

  1. Confused, directionless scribbling (0 points)
  2. Lines with some direction. The drawing resembles raw geometric shapes (1 point)

Note: If at the time of the debriefing it is determined that what seems to be just confused forms is actually trying to represent some specific part of the body, then the drawing must be graded as if it were in the B group.

B group: Recognisable drawings - in which a human figure is recogniseable.

Each part and subpart is worth 1 point

1. Head - present

2. Legs - present

3. Arms - present

4. Torso:
4a. present
4b. The torso is taller than it is wide
4c. The legs and arms are connected to the body
4d. The shoulders are definitely recogniseable.
4e. The arms and legs attach in the proper places to the body.

5. Neck
5a. Present
5b. The outer lines of the neck go over the lines of the head, the lines of the torso, or both.

6. Eyes - Present

7. Nose
7a. Present
7b. Nostrils are also present

8. Mouth
8a. Present
8b. The nose and mouth are two dimensional (a shape, not a line), and you can see both lips.

9. Hair
9a. Recogniseable
9b. More than just one line. Better than scribbling. Not transparent (hides the top of the head).

10. Clothing
10a. Present (even just references to it, such as a hat or line of buttons)
10b. At least 2 items of clothing aren't transparent
10c. The drawing is free of transparency (clothing covers the lines of the body and there are sleeves and pantlegs)
10d. 4 or more clearly recogniseable articles of clothing are visible
10e. Complete, concrete costume (for example, a dress)

11. Fingers
11a. There are fingers on the hands
11b. There are the right number of fingers
11c. The fingers are shapes, not lines, proportional and the outer angles are no more than 180°.
11d. The hand is recognisably seperate from the fingers and arm.

12. Arm/Leg depiction
12a. The arms are properly depicted: the elbows and/or shoulders are visible.
12b. The legs are properly depicted: and the knee and/or ankles are visible.

13. Proportions
13a. The head is smaller than the torso but bigger than 1/10th the size of the torso.
13b. The arms are proportionate with the torso, but thinner.
13c. The foot is a shape, not a line and it is longer than it is wide. The length of the foot is no longer than 1/3rd the length of the leg and no smaller than 1/10th the length of the leg.
13d. Both arms and legs are shapes, not lines.
13e. The heel of the foot or shoe is visible.

14. Motor Coordination
14a. A lines: Each line clearly and distinctly meets the place of connection. There are no significant crossings or gaps. Pay attention to the complexity of the drawing. Simple line drawings with few details should be more strictly graded than those with many details in which the shapes are comprised of many short sketchy lines. This type of drawing shows great maturity. This point is less objective than the other points.
14b. E lines: Every line is distinctly drawn and accurately connected. This point is stricter than 14/a and this point can only be given if 14/a is also given.
14c. The shape of the head is more distinct than just a circle or an oval.
14d. The shape of the torso is more distinct than just a circle or oval.
14e. The arms and legs are properly shaped.
14f. The face is properly shaped (the features are symetrical, shapes not just lines, at proper distance from each other and in proportion.)

15. Ears
15a. Present
15b. The ears are in the proper place and proportion

16. Eyes
16a. Detailed: eyebrows and/or eyelashes
16b. Pupil is also present
16c. Proportion: the eyes are wider than they tall.
16d. Gaze (only in profile drawings). The eye is in perspective and should not be almond shaped, but if it is almond shaped, the pupil should be closer to the forehead)

17. Forehead - visible

18. Jaw 18a. visible 18b. The shape of the jaw is visible and it is seperate from the mouth.

19. "A" profile: The head, torso and leg profile is without error.

The following 3 errors are allowable:

  1. Body transparency (For example, the line of the body can be seen on the arms)
  2. The feet aren't visible in the drawing (because they are completely covered by something)
  3. The lines of the arms and back connect but the arms are slightly forward.

20. "B" profile: The figure is in complete profile without mistake and is not transparent. The only mistake allowable is with the eye: see point 16/d.


Add up your points! How did you do? Comment and tell me.


AgePoints
32
3.33
3.64
3.95
46
4.37
4.68
4.99
510
5.311
5.612
5.913
614
6.315
6.616
6.917
718
7.319
7.620
7.921
822
8.323
8.624
8.925
926
9.327
9.628
9.929
1030
10.331
10.632
10.933
1134
11.335
11.636
11.937
1238
12.339
12.640
12.941
1342
13.343
13.644
13.945
1446

Drawing Quotient (DQ) = Drawing age/Actual age × 100. If 100, then normal.

And a happy exit poll. :)

[Poll #468627]
pthalo: a photo of Jelena Tomašević in autumn colours (Default)

[personal profile] pthalo 2005-04-05 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I got 38. My little got 11, 11, 17, and 19. :)
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[identity profile] pne.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't count exactly but it was probably somewhere around 12-14!

[identity profile] vittorio23.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a horrible drawer! Just out of curiosity, I went into my old "portfolio" of sorts, and pulled out a drawing from kindergarden. I'm sad to say it looked pretty darn close to the one I had built just now. LOL. I scored the drawing age of 10.

[identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, so that's what they were doing!

I was born early—though now it wouldn't be considered "premature"—and beacuse I wasn't breathing, they were afraid I was brain-damaged in some way. I had to go every six months until I was 3, then once a year after that 'til I was 6, then again at age 12 for IQ tests. One of the things they always made me do was draw a person and I always wondered why.

BTW My IQ is, er, quite satisfactory.

[identity profile] camomiletea.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
That was fun. Once when I was at a doctors a while back, she also made me do a drawing. She asked me to draw a boy, but umm, at that time I usually drew just girls, and so my mom asked the doctor if I could do a girl instead. Hehe... I think when we moved to US, we threw away that folder which had my drawing. I think it was pretty good for my age then.

[identity profile] it0376.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm.. I either got 43, or I did count them wrongly. This'd be bad for a Mathematician, though...

[identity profile] allegrox.livejournal.com 2005-04-05 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It does seem a little unfair for people who are over fourteen and automatically get less than 100. Of course, it is a test for the first grade... But I wonder if the Drawing Quotient could be extended to better fit older artists.
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[identity profile] pne.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
But I wonder if the Drawing Quotient could be extended to better fit older artists.

I think one problem is that artistic skills vary widely in teenagers and adults... so it can't be in any way accurate after a while.

I mean, how much better does a 28-year-old draw than a 14-year-old? I'd say it depends a lot on the 28-year-old and how well they can draw and how much they like to draw and how much they have drawn, and a lot less on any objective "intellectual maturity".

[identity profile] allegrox.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Very true. Of course, the whole thing is questionable. Interesting, though.

Drawing Assessment

[identity profile] meeps-hitchie.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Say, do you really count a part, e.g. 4. Torso, AND the subpart, e.g. 4.a present???
Looks like double scores to me...
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Re: Drawing Assessment

[personal profile] pthalo 2005-04-09 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
no, you don't. You'd count 1 as 1, if you have a head, even though there are no subparts, and then under torso you'd count 1 for present, etc.

[identity profile] node-ue.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Uhh... I got a 30. But then, I didn't do it as complex as I possibly could - I was purposefully fast, and had I not been I would've had dimensional eyes with retinae, pupils, eyebrows and lashes, more than just a scribble for hair, proper proportions for ears, dimensional nose and mouth with lips and nostrils, notable shoulders and neck, and probably better fingers too... and hopefully elbows and knees. And I do tend to draw with lots of short, disconnected lines. But not this time.

No, really!
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[identity profile] pne.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Hence the Do your best and make it as detailed and realistic as possible.

I overlooked, that, too and so my drawing was quite a bit more schematic than I could have done had I wanted to... which still wouldn't have been that great, though :)

[identity profile] angharad.livejournal.com 2005-04-13 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
And, here's me assuming that line indicates (as the euphemism goes) "anatomical accuracy". I haven't done the picture yet, but if I'd not read the scoresheet, I'd've scored zero on clothing!

[identity profile] eridanusus.livejournal.com 2005-04-06 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Aw man it says I'm only 10.3 no fair. I got 31 but I did it on computer so my dad helped me. -Christopher