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In our company's Yellow Pages, it's possible to list not only your areas of experience or your hobbies, but also what languages you speak.

The list of possible languages to choose from is pretty interesting; I wonder where they got the list from! It even includes Esperanto, Lojban, and Interlingua, for example. At first I thought it might be all languages that have an ISO 639 code, but there are also more minor conlangs such as Talossan and Ceqli, which I'm fairly sure don't have such a code. So I wonder how the person who made the list had heard of them.

At any rate, a coworker told me that there were two employees who listed "Klingon" as one of the languages they speak! I sent them an email asking them whether this was true and whether they were planning on going to the German qepHom in November.

One of them has already replied—and he said that it had just been a test to see whether anyone would notice. Hah! He has no honour, this one! Pretending to speak Klingon when he really can't!

Edit: and the other one doesn't speak it, either! Hab SoSchaj Quch!

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubykhlives.livejournal.com
DavHam neH ghaj! ghetwI' ghaH! Hab SoSDaj Quch 'e' vISuD. {{:)

nuqjatlh

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 15:00 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
nuqjatlh? qayajbe'. mu'mey vISovbe'bogh Dalo'.

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 15:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crschmidt.livejournal.com
The Language Guesser (http://languid.cantbedone.org/) says you're speaking Klingon. To that, I say, Qapla' batlh je!

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timwi.livejournal.com
Klingon should be pretty easy to recognise statistically. Of all languages I know it has the most Q's, for instance.

Kind of weird, though, that this Language Guesser has Klingon but not Esperanto. I put in "Mi parolas la lingvon internacian." and it said "Spanish" :-p

Identifying Klingon text

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:04 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
The weird capitalisation also gives it away (if you discount peOplE whO tYpE liKe Dis) -- seeing an I or an H in the middle of an otherwise-lowercase word, for example, is probably a pretty sure sign of Klingon.

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crschmidt.livejournal.com
I'd have guessed Spanish too, and I took 5 years of it, so I can't expect the machine to be much better than me. :)

I don't really know where the list comes from (you can see it in faded red text on the right side), but you're right that it doesn't include Esperanto. Not that it's perfect anyway - it's only statistical analysis :)

Re: Identifying Klingon text

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crschmidt.livejournal.com
I'm not sure that the capitalization is what matters in this case: copying the text after lowercasing it still gets the Klingon from the guessing tool.

I'd say that Klingon is probably relatively different from most other languages statistically: It just *looks* different.

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 20:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozallin.livejournal.com
Hello there. I find your public journal entries interesting as we have a number of common interests (mainly Perl and linguistics) so I've added you to my Friends List. Please don't feel that you have to reciprocate though. :)

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 20:27 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Well, well, well! You're a London.pm'er, too? Small world.

...it always seems a bit strange to me when I meet someone in one place who knows people I know from a different place; in your case, I met you in support but you also know London Perl people. ([livejournal.com profile] karen2205 was similar, though she knew "the Oxford people", some of whom I also know - and for [livejournal.com profile] ladydiana, I met her in [livejournal.com profile] linguaphiles first, I think, before seeing her in support.)

The majority of my entries are public, so you're not missing much! If I have time, though, I'll look into your journal occasionally and might add you later.

For now, though, welcome to my journal!

Re: nuqjatlh

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubykhlives.livejournal.com
HolQeDDaq mu'meyvam lutu'lu'. chaq HolQeD chovnatlhvetlh DaHevbe'pu'.

DavHam = false honour
ghet = to pretend (vaj, ghetwI' = pretender)

chovnatlhvetlhDaq latlh batlh mu'mey lutu'lu' je.

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubykhlives.livejournal.com
Heh, I typed in mc'vrtneli gvbrdγvnis "the trainer is plucking us" - possibly the most stereotypically Georgian phrase in the whole world (check out the initial consonant clusters) - and the guesser claimed it was gibberish. I can't think why. :)

Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubykhlives.livejournal.com
Yes, it was Klingon. What I said was: "He only has false honour! He is a pretender! I bet his mother has a smooth forehead!" :D

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elgrande.livejournal.com
Did you complain to them about having mentioned they speak this language?

Re: Identifying Klingon text

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 01:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nik-w.livejournal.com
> I'd say that Klingon is probably relatively different from most other languages

Apparently, the closest language to Klingon is Welsh... not sure who came up with that or how, but there you go...

Re: nuqjatlh

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:52 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
HolQeDDaq mu'meyvam lutu'lu'. chaq HolQeD chovnatlhvetlh DaHevbe'pu'

jIyaj. ... bIlughlaw'. chovnatlh wa'DIch vIHevbogh 'oH chovnatlh veb'e'.

'ach mu'mey chu' tetlh (http://www.kli.org/tlh/newwords.html)Daq lutu'lu' mu'meyvam... Huj. qawHaqwIjDaq bIHtaH Hoch mu'meyvam 'e' vIQub. jImujbej. mu'mey vIchelnISba'.

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:53 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Did you type it in the Georgian alphabet? It did say to enter UTF-8 encoded text!

I wouldn't expect it to recognise English in katakana transcription, either...

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:54 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Kind of; I mentioned that I had been a bit disappointed since I thought it meant there were other people in the company who were interested in it, and this turned out not to be the case.

Not 'complain' as such, though, no.

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubykhlives.livejournal.com
I wouldn't expect it to recognise English in katakana transcription, either...

True...

...but that's cheating then, since Georgian is the only major language written with the Georgian alphabet. :P

Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:56 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
*shrug* Same with Greek, Armenian, and most of the languages of the Indian subcontinent.

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