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Apparently, English dish and German Tisch are cognate.

(As are English disk, disc, desk, discus, and dais.)

Date: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:47 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jpallan.livejournal.com
I'm way behind the curve on this one, but when speaking (in a terrible accent) to a German speaker yesterday, I realised all of sudden that Tochter and daughter are cognate too.

Date: Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:24 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Ah, yes.

Probably even more evident several centuries ago, when "gh" was still pronounced /x/ (like "ch"). (Not sure whether there are varieties of English where this is still the case - parts of Scotland, perhaps?)

Also cognate with Ancient Greek θυγάτηρ -- I think this word goes back all the way to Proto-Indo-European (as do several other kinship terms such as "father" and "brother").

Discovering connections is always fun, I find!

Date: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com
(Not sure whether there are varieties of English where this is still the case - parts of Scotland, perhaps?)

I've heard at least one (phonetically aware) person on the internet claim it was still the case in their dialect. IIRC, they were from Scotland.

Apparently, English dish and German Tisch are cognate.

Oh, that makes me think, you might be interested in a little project I started this week, about the etymologies of currency names (http://www.sedesdraconis.com/index.php/Currency_Names). (In particular, that reminded me of the origin of "dollar" from "Thaler", "from the valley".

Date: Friday, 16 May 2008 13:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fridoline.livejournal.com
I find that website interesting. It contains almost all of the currencies I know, but I could not find the Peruvian currencies "nuevo sol" and "inti".

Date: Friday, 16 May 2008 16:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com
I find that website interesting.

Thanks!

I could not find the Peruvian currencies "nuevo sol" and "inti".

I'm not bothering with (at least not yet) things like "nuevo sol" or "Deutschmark", just silently lumping them in with "sol" (see solidus) and "mark".

I did come across the inti in my initial research, though for some reason, it didn't end up in my notes. Thanks for reminding me, it's got an interesting story (also I haven't entered any of the named after gods and heroes coins yet, even the ones that were in my notes).

Date: Friday, 16 May 2008 18:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fridoline.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you, I had not connected it with that term, solidus, since, in the Peruvian case at least, "sol" refers particularly to the sun - hence also the inti = sun.

Date: Friday, 16 May 2008 18:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com
since, in the Peruvian case at least, "sol" refers particularly to the sun - hence also the inti = sun.

Ah, that's the interesting story! The Peruvian "sol" doesn't actually come from "sol" = "the sun", it comes from "solidus" = "solid (gold)". But it's re-interpreted as "sun", hence, the inti.

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