Passport

Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:32
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My UK passport will be expiring early next year, and so I started thinking about what I'll need to do to renew it.

My number one concern was whom to get to countersign it; you're supposed to get a Member of Parliament, Justice of the Peace, Minister of Religion, Bank Officer, Established Civil Servant, or professionally qualified person, e.g. Lawyer, Engineer, Doctor, School Teacher, Police Officer or a person of similar standing who has known me personally for at least two years and is, preferably, a British citizen, other British national or Commonwealth citizen (a citizen of the country in which I am residing will do in a pinch if I know no British/Commonwealth person, provided he/she has a similar standing in that country… and the Consul considers his/her signature to be acceptable).

For my previous two passports, I used my school's headmaster, who was Australian, but I'm not at school any more and neither is he. And I thought that I don't really know that many people personally, at least not, people who are Respected Local Dignitaries. I wondered whether my bishop or stake president would work or whether "Minister of Religion" meant one or more of (a) full-time job and (b) big or state religion, neither of which applies. But Stella said I could try asking Bettina, who's a civil servant (Beamte) and also has some kind of veterinary degree IIRC, so that might work out.

The other main concern I have is the paperwork I need to submit along with the application: the notes page said that if I was born outside the UK before 1 January 1983 that I'd need

  1. Your consular birth certificate: and/or
  2. Your full local, High Commission or British Forces birth certificate showing parents' names: plus
  3. Evidence of your father's# citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies if this is not shown on the consular birth certificate: plus
  4. Your parents' full marriage certificate, evidence of termination of previous marriages, your father's# full birth certificate, naturalisation or registration document, or other evidence of your father's# national status.

Phew! On the other hand, the note says that Documents are not normally needed if you are surrendering a recently expired, unrestricted British passport showing your national status as British citizen […] and all other details are the same, which I hope applies to me. I may have to phone the general consulate in Düsseldorf to inquire.

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 05:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com
Gareth's full birth certificate was £7, orderable on the internet, arrived in three days and didn't charge extra for international shipping. Though the Dundee registry can only do birth certificates for Scotland IIRC.

OTOH, US passports only require all that stuff the first time; after that, you just send your old passport, renewal form, photos and fee. (BTW—unlike just about every other country in the world, everywhere else that puts a photo on the document takes the photo there. The only thing we need to submit our own photos for is the passport.)

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:05 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] karen2205
Minister of Religion - part time is fine and no need for it to be the state religion or even a widely practised one.

But you should be fine without documents since you're just renewing your passport - I've got to do mine in March of next year too.

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:25 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
But you should be fine without documents since you're just renewing your passport

That sounds good, then. Thanks.

Butting in from my */friendsfriends list...

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyssiae.livejournal.com
I recently applied for a passport renewal for my passport (I'm a Brit living in the Netherlands). As I've only lived here for a few months, I went down to the consulate in Amsterdam and applied in person - then the need for counter signatories etc is waived.

I'm not sure if the Consulates and Embassy in Germany would do the same, or if it's practical for you, but it might be worth checking out.

Going down to the consulate

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:24 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Not really practical, since AFAIK the only place in Germany that processes passport applications is Düsseldorf (3½–4 hours one way by train, and about €120 for a full-price return ticket).

Re: Going down to the consulate

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyssiae.livejournal.com
...eeek. The joys of living in a country where you're at most two and a half hours away from the capital :) Hope you find a solution though.

Renewing my passport

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:31 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Well, if things work out the way I hope, I won't need any supporting documentation since I can turn in my current passport, and I can ask Bettina to countersign my photo and the application, so I'll be fine. I'll just have to pay the €88 (or thereabouts) fee.

Passport fees

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyssiae.livejournal.com
Hmpf, I paid €94 for mine!

Re: Passport fees

Date: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 06:39 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Well, it's currently (http://www.britische-botschaft.de/en/consular/passports/#fees) €88 + €5 postage/admin fee, which comes out to about €93 as well. But the page says that it's really £56.50 + €5 and that the total in euros will depend on the exchange rate.

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