Royalmail.com

Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:49
pne: A picture of a plush toy, halfway between a duck and a platypus, with a green body and a yellow bill and feet. (Default)
[personal profile] pne

I went to royalmail.co.uk. It redirected me to royalmail.com.

What's up with that? I would've thought that they'd register a .uk domain! They're a UK company, for goodness' sake, aren't they?

For me, this is on a level with the fact that the US Army public-facing domain is goarmy.com and not army.mil. (Unless I've misunderstood something.)

Treating top-level domains as meaningless is somehow irking for me. (I also find it weird if German companies get a .com domain, especially local/regional ones such as Hamburger Hochbahn AG—though to their credit, they're also hochbahn.de now.)

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:25 (UTC)
ext_78: A picture of a plush animal. It looks a bit like a cross between a duck and a platypus. (Default)
From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
You also don't want a competitor to buy up the .com name and have people mistake it for you/someone buy it and fill it with totally inappropriate comment.

Fair enough. So register the .com equivalent and redirect it to the .co.uk/.de/.fr/whatever -- but not the other way around (IMO). Or provide exactly the same content whichever URL a visitor uses, as Village Fabrics seems to do (though the two sites seem to display slightly differently in terms of text width). But don't redirect the country-specific one to the .com one.

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:51 (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
Hmm - I don't know why they're displaying differently in terms of text width. What has me rather more concerned is that the url http://www.villagefabrics.com doesn't change when you request other pages within the site. This is bad netiquette which I need to fix, but I don't know where to start.








is what I get when view the source of a .com page - which would suggest that the redirect isn't being done sensibly (I'd never write HTML that looks like that) and probably also explains the slight difference in text alignment.

*adds to to do list*

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:56 (UTC)
ext_78: A picture of a plush animal. It looks a bit like a cross between a duck and a platypus. (Default)
From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
*nods* it would explain the difference -- if the .com site is simply the .co.uk site in a framesite, the available width may be, say, one or two pixels narrower on each margin (to account for invisible frame borders or something), which will affect word breaking.

suggest that the redirect isn't being done sensibly

I presume you used some other company's service to "redirect" the domain; this sort of thing is a fairly frequent method. Sometimes hiding the real URL is a desired effect, so that people going to www.impressivecompanyname.com can't easily see that the contents are being served from, say, www.geocities.com/Lame/Stupid/1235/ or whatever.

The proper way is probably to use DNS to point both domains to the web server, then configure the web server to accept requests for both domains and associate them with the same set of files.

Incidentally, you may be thinking <pre> does something more than it actually does. (In a pinch, you could try <xmp>; however, that tag is deprecated AFAIK and does not "work" [that is, does not "quote" embedded HTML tags] in all browsers, specifically Opera. Better to escape at least opening < as <, even inside <pre>.)

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:05 (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
The proper way is probably to use DNS to point both domains to the web server, then configure the web server to accept requests for both domains and associate them with the same set of files.

Yeah....this is slightly beyond my technical ability right now. I'll have to see if I can find someone to take pity on me and point me in the direction of instructions I might understand. Maybe at the weekend.

I thought <pre> ignored all formatting - it's not a tag I've looked into much, because I don't generally want preformatted text to appear in my HTML.

pre

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:14 (UTC)
ext_78: A picture of a plush animal. It looks a bit like a cross between a duck and a platypus. (Default)
From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Briefly, pre applies to how white space and line-wrapping are treated (so you can insert multiple consecutive spaces or line breaks with just spaces and new lines, and you don't get word wrap). It doesn't affect HTML tags, so you can still have, say, bold or italics inside a block of preformatted text.

(pre bits are also usually rendered in a monospace font.)

Date: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:58 (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
OK, <pre> doesn't do what I thought it would.
This is the HTML in question.

<HTML><HEAD>
<META NAME="description" content="">
<META NAME="keywords" content="">
<TITLE></TITLE>

</HEAD>
<FRAMESET ROWS="100%,*" BORDER="0" FRAMEBORDER="0">
<FRAME SRC="http://www.villagefabrics.co.uk/" SCROLLING="AUTO" NAME="bannerframe" NORESIZE>
</FRAMESET>
<NOFRAMES>

<P>
<DIV ALIGN="CENTER"><A HREF="http://www.villagefabrics.co.uk/">http://villagefabrics.com/</A></DIV>
</NOFRAMES>
</HTML>

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