Tell me how badly I mangled your name!
Sunday, 8 July 2007 20:00This poll concerns the voice post in this entry, in which I say the usernames of the people on my Mutual Friends list.
[Poll #1017534]This poll concerns the voice post in this entry, in which I say the usernames of the people on my Mutual Friends list.
[Poll #1017534]
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:12 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:13 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:24 (UTC)Also, to elaborate on my comment: I'm assuming your username is taken from 'Philip Newton', your whole name, yes? So, following the pronunciation of that, it should be pronounced the same. Except when I see your username, I don't pronounce it that way because it sounds funny. I chose instead to pronounce it 'pnay'. Because that's prettier. :)
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:15 (UTC)Oops. I thought I was accenting the first, FWIW.
I'm assuming your username is taken from 'Philip Newton', your whole name, yes?
Yes.
At work, we had (have) usernames that are usually three letters long (occasionally two), and "first letter of given name + first two letters of family name" is the standard pattern as long as the resulting abbreviation isn't already in use.
So, following the pronunciation of that, it should be pronounced the same
Like "Fnoo"?
Except when I see your username, I don't pronounce it that way because it sounds funny. I chose instead to pronounce it 'pnay'. Because that's prettier. :)
Which is close to how I sometimes pronounce it in German!
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 03:16 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:43 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:18 (UTC)Both pronunciations are just fine -- the one you gave first is how I say it in English (I stress the last letter, but many others stress the first, which is also fine with me), the second is one of the ways I say it in German (the other way being to spell the letters out again, [pe: En ?e:]).
Take your pick, or use both.
(with a somewhat stronger consonant than [p] but not sure how to spell it in IPA)
[ph], I believe. (Or more properly, [pʰ].) Or [p_h] as an ASCII approximation.
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:33 (UTC)[ph], I believe. (Or more properly, [pʰ].) Or [p_h] as an ASCII approximation."
Not only aspirated but something more sudden and louder. I think he used the sound to make it sound funnier.
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:10 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:24 (UTC)Apologies.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean with "broad A" (that brings to mind my pronunciation of "bath" or "palm", since I've heard that called "broad A" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_short_A#Trap-bath_split)); if it's any consolation, I thought I was producing the vowel I use in, say, "mallet" or "alley" (phonemically, the same one as in "cat": Wells's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexical_set#Standard_lexical_sets_for_English) TRAP vowel).
But of course on the one hand, my phonemes may well have different phonetic realisations than yours (so my TRAP may sound like your DRESS, or whatever), and on the other hand, there might well have been interference from German in my pronunciation.
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:25 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:26 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:27 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 20:05 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:38 (UTC)no subject
Date: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:53 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 20:24 (UTC)no subject
Date: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 19:53 (UTC)I couldn't hear him well enough to decide whether he pronounced the p in pthalo or not (it's a silent p), but the rest was right.
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:55 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:57 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:40 (UTC)I'm not known for being original :) I had originally duplicated your first question, too, but then decided to change it a bit.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 08:30 (UTC)I was thinking of using scale as well, but decided that it was less work to use funny answers (such as they were :))
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 23:15 (UTC)Mum left some sort of google voicemail for me once. Sound - what is this sound thing?
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Date: Sunday, 8 July 2007 23:34 (UTC)I gave it a 9 for the difference between the Pacific Northwest/Canadian 'i' versus the British 'i'. It should really be a 9.5.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 00:56 (UTC)Though I gave it a 10, because I figured that while it wasn't necessarily exactly how I'd say it, it was certainly an acceptable way for the name to be pronounced in general.
I may have to try this now.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 04:16 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 06:45 (UTC)So I gave you a 9... because my user name is so easy that I have to be difficult about it. :P
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:42 (UTC)That makes sense.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:16 (UTC)Also, your accent in English is cool. Given what I know of your linguistic background it's not that surprising that you have a cool accent, but it's fun to hear it.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:43 (UTC)It helped that I once heard you pronounce your own username, giving it a French pronunciation.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:52 (UTC)And I didn't think you'd get my username quite perfectly, but no hard feelings, as I missed yours too. :S
Mine is pronounced [].
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 07:58 (UTC)Sorry if you received that impression.
When speaking in English, pronouncing my username as an acronym is just fine, and is how I say it myself.
On which of the three syllables, if any, do you place primary stress? (I have it on "E", many others on "P"; either is fine by me.)
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 13:01 (UTC)That's OK, but it's hardly something that needs apologising for. :)
When speaking in English, pronouncing my username as an acronym is just fine, and is how I say it myself.
Oh good. I had thought that the P and the N were your initials, but had not been so sure about the E at the end. (It's intended to be the second letter of your surname, correct?)
Out of interest, is its pronunciation different when you're speaking in German?
On which of the three syllables, if any, do you place primary stress? (I have it on "E", many others on "P"; either is fine by me.)
Well, it looks like I'd get 10 out of 10 then! I also would place primary stress on the final syllable, with a secondary stress on the first, much the same as the stress pattern of the word underneath.
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 13:23 (UTC)Correct. "First letter of given name, first two letters of family name" is the default pattern for usernames in my company, as long as the result is not already taken. And I've liked that username ever since I've had it, and try to use it elsewhere as well, if it's not already taken or prohibited by name length rules.
Out of interest, is its pronunciation different when you're speaking in German?
Indeed it is.
I pronounce it two different ways: either spelling it out letter-by-letter (with German letter names; roughly [pheEn?e:], though I'm not sure on whether I have zero, one, or two glottal stops in there -- generally, German words cannot begin with a vowel but will have a glottal stop in front instead, but I don't think there's one between [pe] and [En], and I'm not sure whether there's one in front of [e:] or not; it's not a feature I notice consciously unless I try really hard) or by pronouncing it as a single word (roughly [phne:]).
Well, it looks like I'd get 10 out of 10 then!
Indeed! By your description, you pronounce it exactly the same way I do. (On the phonemic level, at least.)
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 08:12 (UTC)And you've got Schnurble better than I'd expected, actually I liked your pronounciation, although I say the u like in Schnur (German word for a piece of string)...
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 08:47 (UTC)Interesting.
I think that even if I had pronounced your name in German, I would have used a different sound -- I have a long u in "Schnur", but a short u in e.g. "Wurst" or "kurz" or "Kurbel", and I would've used that short u sound. (So the first syllable of "Kurbel" does not sound the same as "Kur".)
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Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 09:21 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 12:18 (UTC)Spot On.
I'd like to hear you try to pronounce my gaming names tho:
llanedd
llwyddfa
:-D
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Date: Thursday, 12 July 2007 07:37 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 July 2007 22:37 (UTC)