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Browsing around Wikipedia, I came across two fascinating bits related to writing Chinese.

The first is Xiao'erjing, a method of writing Chinese in Arabic script (that reminds me of how Dungan -- which can also, incidentally, be written in Xiao'erjing -- is usually written in Cyrillic).

The second is General Chinese, a method devised by Y. R. Chao to represent the pronunciations of all major Chinese dialects simultaneously, and from which one can also (usually) derive the Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese pronunciations. In effect, GC is a reconstruction of the pronunciation of Middle Chinese, except that distinctions that have been lost from all major dialects are not bothered with.

That seems pretty nifty, if a bit impractical to read and a nightmare to learn to write correctly (since you, by definition, have to make more distinctions than your native 'lect does -- even worse than the equivalent of General Chinese for English would be, I think, since I don't think the various varieties have diverged as much).

Dungan itself (Wikipedia, an article) is also pretty fascinating.

Date: Friday, 28 March 2008 00:10 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tungol.livejournal.com
Interesting! I didn't know there were Chinese languages with a history of alphabetic writing.

Dungan

Date: Friday, 28 March 2008 09:02 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Go read the pinyin.info article on Dungan if you haven't already. It seems like a pretty nifty situation there.

Date: Friday, 28 March 2008 14:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Nevertheless, GC could hardly be more impractical than a system of thousands of characters which have no systematic relationship with the phonemic makeup of the syllables they represent whatsoever. It's a very interesting proposal.

Date: Saturday, 29 March 2008 01:43 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] afuna
Hm, interesting. I have never come across either before. I wonder if GC overcomes the problems I had with pinyin? (Basically, the romanization in pinyin does not sound the way it looks in my head)

Date: Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:13 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
BTW, I got your postcard from Japan yesterday -- thanks!

Date: Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:14 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] afuna
Awesome! Hope you had fun with it :)

Date: Saturday, 29 March 2008 05:18 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
I did :) Thanks so much!

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