Girl Scout cookies
Sunday, 8 March 2009 21:52Further on the theme of
we_swap_snacks: can someone tell me about the availability of Girl Scout cookies?
They're an icon of American culture, and I'd be interested to try some, but am wondering whether they'd be available to my swap partner, since as I understand it, they're typically sold as part of fund-raisers, so might not be available year-round but only at selected dates.
Is that about right? Or are there places where you can get them at any time? (Or even order them off the web? Presumably not since that would not benefit a specific local unit.)
If they're only sold occasionally, about how often is this? Every couple of months, perhaps, so if the swap partner knew sufficiently far in advance that I'd like some, they could wait until the next sale? Or only once or twice a year? Or does this depend so much on the local unit that it's impossible to say in general?
Relatedly, what are your favourite Girl Scout cookies? Why those in particular?
Which ones would you recommend?
Oh, and in what kind of quantities do they get sold? I wouldn't want to buy entire boxes of cookies—something on the order of 200 g (7 oz) per type, perhaps. Is that possible?
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 21:01 (UTC)The boxes are (IIRC) only about 12 oz/300 g each. $4 or $4.50, I think.
They also have Girl Guide cookies in Canada. My girls sold lots of them (many to me). They're all different, though, being completely different manufacturers. Can't remember exactly what the schedule is there, either. I remember doing it twice a year, so maybe Nov. and April, but I'm not sure.
Bonus points if you get the movie with these lines: "Do you wanna buy some Girl Scout cookies?" "Are they made from real Girl Scouts?"
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 21:06 (UTC)no subject
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Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:57 (UTC)I like the Thin Mints, so I just buy Grasshoppers. Cheaper, available all year round, and sooooo good (especially when put in the freezer and eaten cold...mmm).
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 21:05 (UTC)That said, they're small amounts of cookies — about 15 per box in the case of the peanut butter and about 40 per box in the case of the mints — and extremely sweet. Perpetual favourites are Samoas (coconut and caramel), Tagalongs (peanut butter) and Thin Mints (obvious). These are all coated in chocolate, although they run a sugar cookie or two a year.
Among Americans, an entire box of Girl Scout cookies is considered "1 serving".
They are widely sold in the very early spring (February/March) of each year, and then they disappear for the rest of the year. Producing Girl Scout cookies in October is comparable to producing crystal methamphetamine in terms of its effect on dinner party guests.
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 13:25 (UTC)As an Australian, I can sum that up in a single word: Vegemite.
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 05:58 (UTC)If I can ask anyone at all, then yes. For any given person, though, I'd probably only be in luck during the local "cookie season" - some people might have March, others September, others in between.
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:34 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 07:14 (UTC)I didn't buy any last year, but the year before, I think I got some in August/September. A friend of mine's aunt dropped him off some in September this past fall.
And I saw some scouts with a table set up in the local grocery store in about October/November, though I'm not sure where they procured theirs...whether it was overstock from the local council or they'd purposefully bought a lot of boxes to sell later, I have no idea.
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 21:33 (UTC)Back to the bakers. There are two licensed bakers. Each council decides which baker's cookies they will sell. I do not know how this decision is made. The boxes look the same, and the most popular cookie types are sold by both bakers, but they are not exactly the same, and some of the cookies have different names. The most famous Girl Scout cookies are Thin Mints. These are thin chocolate wafer cookies flavored with mint and covered in milk chocolate. Both ABC and Little Brownie bakers make these and call them the same thing. They taste about the same no matter which baker they come from. Then there are Samoas. Samoas are wonderful concoctions of caramel, cocounut, and chocolate. They taste wonderful frozen. Little Brownie bakers makes Samoas. ABC bakers makes Caramel De-lites, which are about the same as Samoas, but I don't like them quite as much. Tagalongs are chocolate covered, peanut-butter filled shortbread cookies. They are the most wonderful thing in the world. They are from Little Brownie bakers. ABC calls them Peanut Butter patties. There is a noticeable difference in quality there. Peanut Butter patties may look like Tagalongs, but they just do not taste as good. The other two staples are Do-si-dos (LBB) or Peanut Butter Sandwiches (ABC) and Trefoils (LBB) or Shortbreads (ABC). The Girl Scouts of the US only actually requires the sale of three types of cookies (Do-Si-Dos/Peanut Butter Sandwiches, Thin Mints, and Trefoils/Shortbreads), and the other flavors (there can be up to 28) may vary from year to year. But Samoas and Tagalongs are so popular, they are always offered.
So basically, you'll want to find someone who can locate a booth sale for you, as these are happening right now and will soon be over, and you'll most likely want to try Thin Mints, Samoas/Caramel De-Lites, and maybe Tagalongs (but I do not recommend Peanut Butter Patties). The boxes are small, about 6-10 oz. They usually cost about $3 a box.
Why yes, I do know more about Girl Scout cookies than anybody ever should. :-)
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:38 (UTC)Back in the '70s when I was selling them there was an oatmeal cream cookie available that was absolutely to die for. Every year when I hear the Scouts are selling, I wish for those cookies back. Somoas are great, but oh those oatmeal creams....
Also, for one or two years, Thin Mints actually had a layer of mint cream on top of a chocolate cookie, covered in a chocolate coating. Those were far and away the best Thin Mints ever.
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 06:02 (UTC)Oh eep; signups for <lj user="we_swap_snacks" aren't until the 13th and assignments are due to be returned to interested people by the 20th (at the latest), so that might be too late. Ah well, still good to know for future reference. I think I'll just try my luck with my swap partner and if it doesn't work out, ask in my journal next spring for a private swap or something. Thank you for your descriptions and recommendations, too!
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 13:16 (UTC)no subject
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 06:04 (UTC)Urk? That sounds... odd.
All depends on what you're used to, I suppose :)
(But that does help me visualise what they're like; we get Jaffa cakes here in Germany, too.)
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 13:13 (UTC)no subject
Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 22:06 (UTC)You might be able to find boxes of them on eBay or something (I could check Craigslist if you wanted to Paypal me some money). That would pretty much be the only way to get them at this point (unless as I mentioned above, you get lucky and they're selling their extras).
Now, onto the cookies themselves!! I've had all of the older varieties, of which most are still around, BUT I haven't had any of the newer ones - anything they introduced after the lemon cookie is a bit after "my time" (I was a Girl Scout when I was a kid). My favorites are the Samoas, the Tagalongs, and the Thin Mints. To make your life more complicated, I regret to inform you that most of the cookies have different names on the West Coast. ;) I THINK the West Coast names for those are Caramal Delites (Samoas) and Peanut Butter Patties (Tagalongs), but I could be wrong. Thin Mints are definitely still called Thin Mints - they're kind of the icon of Girl Scout cookies.
Samoas (Caramel Delites) are the best - they're a circular/donut shaped cookie, covered in caramel, then coated in coconut shavings, then drizzled with chocolate. They're probably the most unhealthy of all the cookies, but they're delicious. They also have absolutely NO off-brand "copycat" substitute. There IS, however, an official Samoa ice cream (made by Edy's), which I have found pretty much year-round (spottily - it comes and goes).
Thin Mints and Tagalongs (Peanut Butter Patties) almost tie for second. Thin Mints barely edge Tagalongs out, though - they're crunchy and minty, and covered in a chocolate "shell". There's no creme or anything in them. Just chocolate/mint cookie and chocolate coating. They're delicious and addictive...and they're also the most imitated of the Girl Scout cookies. You can find an offbrand copycat pretty easily, and they're not bad. Not as good as the originals, of course, but they've got the best substitutes of any other Girl Scout cookie.
Tagalongs are a shortbread-ish cookie, topped with a layer of peanut butter, then dipped in the same kind of chocolate shell as the Thin Mints. They're also very delicious, but my attention span for peanut butter is limited.
The rest of the Girl Scout cookies, imo, are pretty bland - Trefoils ("Shortbreads") are just a shortbread cookie in the Girl Scout logo, and I have no idea why they're SO popular; Do-Si-Dos ("Peanut Butter Sandwiches") are just like Oreos but with plain (vanilla?) cookies and peanut butter in the middle; the lemon ones are gross (don't even remember their name), and all the rest are pretty forgettable. You'd do best to stick to at least Samoas and Thin Mints, which are typically the staples of the Girl Scout cookie family. I'm pretty sure those are the two most popular, with maybe Trefoils and Tagalongs tied for third.
Let me know if you have any more questions. :) Like I said, I was a Girl Scout, so I've had most of the flavors (pre-1997-ish). I could also maybe find you a box or two and send them to you, if you wanted to Paypal me some money.
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 06:06 (UTC)I think I'll try my luck with my swap partner first, but if that doesn't work out can I look at having you or someone else try to get me some off eBay/Craigslist, or wait until next winter to ask someone to sign up for me.
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 22:20 (UTC)Now, you can kind of cheat and get cookies *like* them year round. Keebler makes some fairly decent knock-offs in their fudgeshoppe line.
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 22:55 (UTC)It looks like other people have pretty much answered all your questions, but I'll add that here in Baltimore the cookies seem to be sold in the early fall -- I think I got mine in October. My favorites are Trefoils (shortbread), Tagalongs (peanut butter, also mentioned above), and I like Thin Mints although not as much as most people. This year I also got some kind of Dulce de Leche flavor that was new this year - a sugar cookie with toffee pieces inside and drizzled with caramel. They were pretty good but not great.
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Date: Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:22 (UTC)I ordered some from a friend's daughter and also bought some from Girl Scouts who had a table outside the craft store on Saturday.
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Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 05:14 (UTC)no subject
Date: Monday, 9 March 2009 05:13 (UTC)The second way, if your troop decides to do it, is to order a bunch of cookies on spec. Then when you're done going house to house delivering cookies, you set up a table and try to sell all the extra cookies you ordered (and any that didn't properly get taken by those who ordered them).
Your troop can only sell them once a year. Each individual Girl Scout gets a badge based on how many cookies she sold and a small prize also based on how many cookies she sold. In New York, you go around getting orders while it's freezing cold and the ground is probably covered in snow.
Anyhow, the thin mints are pretty much always the number one seller and most loved cookies. They are chocolate + mint. It was awkward because people would always ask me when they're ordering, "Which do you like best?" And I'd have to say, "Actually, I don't like any of them. But people tend to love the thin mints." Of course, I don't like ~chocolate~ so I'm not representative. I'd eat the trefoils, basic shortbread cookies with the Girl Scout logo on them, but they are only okay and kind of dull. Most of the cookies are chocolate and the exact cookies sold will vary periodicly, but a few classics like Thin Mints are unlikely to be tampered with because why mess with what works so well?
The money made gets split between the individual troop and Girl Scout Council. Selling cookies is a big way that many troops manage to have various nifty activities like camping trips. While my experience with the Girl Scouts were mainly bad, I do respect that the Girl Scouts are generally okay. They are open to people of any religious belief, including atheism, and they are open to people of basically any orientation. The problems I had have to do with specific people I ran into who ran things badly, as an organization I don't know of problems with them. This is different from the Boy Scouts which has homophobia and a rejection of atheists built into the organization (currently, there are some people who would like to change this and some Boy Scouts who are quite different from this, but the system as a whole has the bigotry written into the rules, which makes it very different from Girl Scouts). Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts sound similar, but they are completely different organizations.
Oh and the price per box varies regionally, which is part of why no Girl Scout is allowed to sell to anyone outside her area. There were problems with Girl Scouts unable to sell because of competition from other Girl Scouts in areas selling the boxes cheaper and also difficulty with customers upset or confused by two prices for the same boxes floating around. So you generally need to get in touch with a local Girl Scout. But since they want to sell the cookies, it's usually not too hard to get them at the right time.
Ah, so many memories.