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An interesting article that John Cowan pointed out to me—using "black" vs "white" to talk about sexism in language (including, but not limited to, pronouns).

Date: Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:12 (UTC)
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You can speak of a girl as "she" and of a boy as "he", and nobody - neither males nor females - will complain.

There are some people who will complain, though - especially those who can't (or don't want to) categorise themselves as "male" or "female". Or those who, for some reason, believe that gender is truly irrelevant and should not be mentioned.

Also, which pronoun do you use if the gender is not known? "Ah! I see that tomorrow Dr. Smith will be giving a lecture. I hope it will be interesting to listen to XXX (him? her? him or her? it? them? em? zir?)" Having gendered pronouns forces you to make this distinction.

Similarly with your "Sie und ihr" example - if you're speaking about a group of people: "Each participant must bring his/her/its/their/zir/eir/??? own notebook."

NB I tend to be fairly conservative on this point and use "he" if the gender is un-known, but wanted to point out that I've found that there are people who do not like gendered pronouns, and I think the above are some of the points that have been made.

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