German has uvular fricatives!

[pne]

Hm, up till now I thought that German /x/ was [x]... but after listening to this page, I'm convinced that it's actually [X] (and that my /r/ is [R], not [G]).

(Also, my attempts at rhotic trills seem to be closer to an [R\] (uvular trill) than to an [r] (alveolar trill). Heh. My trills suck, and I blame my frenulum.)

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Buch vs ach

[pne.livejournal.com]

But I read that "Buch" and "ach" have different consonants, I think.

Hmm... *tries it out*

You may be right. I'm not sure the consonant in "Buch" is far enough forward to be [x], but it feels more forward to me than the sound in "ach", which seems a lot more uvular to me.