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So, this morning I was at my favourite Subway and bought some cookies: two chocolate chip and one white choc macadamia.

I pronounced it "mack-a-DAY-mee-a" and the lady behind the counter (Michaela, whom I've mentioned before) corrected me to "mack-a-DAH-mee-a". I said, fine, since we're in Germany, I'll pronounce it the German way if she prefers. She says it has nothing to do with whether we're speaking German or English: the nut comes from Australia, and there they pronounce it "mack-a-DAH-mee-a" in English, too.

I'm skeptical and so I thought I'd make a poll. If you're not Australian but know someone who is, please feel free to point them here; I'd like as many responses from Australians as possible.

Oh, and I'm mainly concerned about the pronunciation of the "macadamia" part; if, say, the bit before or the bit after sounds different in your pronunciation than what I've written down, please ignore that and pick the option which matches your pronunciation of the "-dam-" bit. Thanks!

[Poll #549066]

Re: Klingon Wikipedia

Date: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:36 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
I should've said "locked". It's uneditable

Ah, so I see now.

if you try it'll give you a message which vaguely suggests database maintenance

Well, it also says, "The administrator who locked it offered this explanation: This wiki has been closed for now. (Move to WikiCities?)".

but Brion Vibber posted about the locking to Wikipedia-l.

So I see now.

I think that, regardless of its merits or its problems, no Wikipedia should be locked in a situation like that. If he really had a problem with the Klingon Wikipedia, he could just as easily have asked Brion to close it at any other time.

There's something to that, yes.

OTOH, the Klingon Wikipedia is probably something that shouldn't have happened in the first place -- I don't think that the language is capable of supporting one.

I base my opinion on the fact that (a) comparatively few words are known and (b) it is difficult or impossible to coin new ones, so it's difficult to talk about many things. Sort of like simple:, but with annoying gaps in the vocabulary.

If it were a conlang that is extensible, it might be better, but with most fans regarding Okrand-derived words as canon and not using other terms, or only extremely carefully, it's probably not viable. Similarly for, say, Sindarin. (Quenya has an even smaller known vocabulary, I think.)

Still, the way it was shut down was maybe... not that great. But I believe it's not that great a loss.

(Toki Pona was even less suitable for an encyclopædia; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that the concept of an encyclopædia is antithetical to the ideals behind Toki Pona.)

Still, thanks for the notice.

Re: Klingon Wikipedia

Date: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] node-ue.livejournal.com
Angela's response to the suggested move to WikiCities is that we can't dump all dead Wikipedias on WikiCities, despite an earlier comment that Wikicities would accept wiki-encyclopaedias in languages Wikipedia denied.

Re: Klingon Wikipedia

Date: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] node-ue.livejournal.com
Followup:

Jimbo sez:

"But I've been convinced for a long time that Klingon should be closed, and just didn't get around to it because it wasn't that important. It still isn't that important. It isn't like I waited until an opportune moment when the Klingons were sleeping to launch my dastardly attack."

lol

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