Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 13:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fweebles.livejournal.com
I've never heard "Green pepper" in connection with any sort of food that wasn't actually green.

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 16:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
You can't say that anymore! But yeah, that's why I said I'd do it if I didn't mind being annoying. But if I said "I need a red pepper", and you thought "Does he mean Image or Image?", then I'd say "a red green-pepper" to clarify it, and since you already knew the possibilities, you'd know which I was talking about.

Context resolves ambiguity in language!

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 17:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fweebles.livejournal.com
I'd say "habañero pepper" or "jalapeño pepper" or whatever for the former. ;)

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 18:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
But it's not a habanero or a jalapeno! I'm not sure what species it is, exactly. (That might be a picture of a jalapeno, actually, but I mean the bigger ones.) It's a "chili pepper", but bell peppers are chili peppers too! It's the sweet pepper that's long and pointy. The yellow ones like it are called "banana peppers".

(And both jalapenos and chili peppers are Capiscuum anuum.!)

Whoa! I just discovered that green peppers are simply immature red (bell) peppers, like green and red tomatoes. Maybe I should call them "green red-peppers" instead.

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 18:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
Woops, I meant to edit out "I'm not sure what species it is".

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 18:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyxie.livejournal.com
I call them OMG WTF MY MOUTH IS ON FIRE!

:p

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 18:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
Red OMG WTF MY MOUTH IS ON FIRE, or green OMG WTF MY MOUTH IS ON FIRE?

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 18:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fweebles.livejournal.com
I've gotten to the point where jalapeños are "kinda flavourful" and if I'm actually looking for hot, I need to do the habañero thing.

I dunno what I'll do once that becomes routine. Pour raw capsaicin on my tongue?

Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 23:54 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tungol.livejournal.com
If I had to distinguish those sorts of red peppers, I'd probably use "hot pepper" vs. "sweet pepper". I probably wouldn't call the hot pepper a "red pepper" in the first place, though.

Date: Thursday, 29 June 2006 00:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com
The former is a chile pepper. In New Jersey I would have called it a red chile, but around here red chile (and green chile) are specific things and I don't know enough to tell whether that is really a red chile (which can only be a Hatch chile) or just a chile pepper. ;-)

Date: Thursday, 29 June 2006 01:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
Alas, sweet peppers are chile (= chili) peppers! (#t1981991)

Date: Thursday, 29 June 2006 01:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com
Not in New Mexico, they ain't. ;-)

Date: Thursday, 29 June 2006 01:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mendel.livejournal.com
Well, "people use different words" was how this whole discussion began. But if you're going to jump in and start declaring what things are hours after I already talked about the problem with "sweet" vs "chili" (#t1981991), then people might be left wondering what you're trying to get across!

Besides, I already explained that I was trying to illustrate a red banana pepper but probably accidentally illustrated a jalapeno (or a tabasco). Even though red banana peppers are chiles I'm not sure people would think of a red banana when they hear "chile" instead of a much smaller, hotter pepper.

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